tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post7562711310360813313..comments2023-08-13T06:56:50.760-07:00Comments on Arts & Sciences College Forum: Deans on Parade David Davishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12126067283016390050noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-39482193405672664662015-11-01T17:38:27.943-08:002015-11-01T17:38:27.943-08:00We can debate whether students need one or two yea...We can debate whether students need one or two years of foreign language, but please do not insult our intelligence by suggesting for even a moment that math is or should be considered a foreign language (besides it is a moot point since the State of Ohio does not allow it to meet that requirement)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-40664522357633524772015-11-01T12:20:16.217-08:002015-11-01T12:20:16.217-08:00I think that the poster at 9:04AM was typing while...I think that the poster at 9:04AM was typing while distracted. How about this: I appreciate the interim provost's point about it being deal breaker if curriculum standardization for COCA and NSM is required. It should be. Foreign languages are important but they cannot solely drive the entire college's curriculum discussion. Some students do need additional foreign language courses. Others need more math. Others need more time for science. COCA students may need extra time for their discipline specific things. Few people are suggesting that we eliminate foreign language requirements. One year might be sufficient for some disciplines though. One could also argue that math is a language as well and that taking more math should satisfy language proficiency requirements. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-8060567216907434202015-11-01T09:04:37.721-08:002015-11-01T09:04:37.721-08:00I appreciate the interim provost's point about...I appreciate the interim provost's point about it being deal breaker if curriculum standardization for COCA and NSM is a deal breaker. It should be. Foreign languages are important but they cannot solely drive the entire college's curriculum discussion. Some students do need additional foreign language courses. Others need more math. Other need more time for science. COCA students may need extra time for their discipline specific things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-44428631705691089042015-11-01T08:35:20.573-08:002015-11-01T08:35:20.573-08:00Yet enrollment is also dropping in other colleges ...Yet enrollment is also dropping in other colleges that were not the focus of previous breakups or mergers, and the with the largest drops this year in graduate programs. especially education and business. Mergers or not, enrollment drops will remain an issue. Also with the break up of A&S no support or resources were provided for marketing, promotion and recruitment as it has been noted many times that those funds were used always exclusively for sports and UTMC. Reforming A&S or some version of it will only be successful in the area of enrollment if sufficient funds are provided to address it. A merger alone is not going to solve those problems. And as the new President has already said publicly many times in different venues, UT Marketing is now going focus more on academic programs and their faculty, research and students. Evidence of this has already occurred in just the last week with a $10 million grant to a LLSS faculty member highly promoted in media and UT News.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-85735789442364295962015-10-31T15:31:48.627-07:002015-10-31T15:31:48.627-07:00Will someone please tell me how the restructuring ...Will someone please tell me how the restructuring advanced the academic mission at UT?Instead of breaking down siloes, the tri-college structure has created them. And instead of more efficiently promoting programs, enrollment keeps dropping!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-90882037457481620862015-10-31T10:34:20.993-07:002015-10-31T10:34:20.993-07:00I heard that the President's meeting with LLSS...I heard that the President's meeting with LLSS folks on Friday saw strong vocal support for a reforming of all of A&S including the scientists, will be interesting to see how they respond to an enquiry by the President about coming back to A&S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-23357961397624447322015-10-30T17:36:48.808-07:002015-10-30T17:36:48.808-07:00Rearranging deck chairs...SMHRearranging deck chairs...SMHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-86326807794774902122015-10-29T06:52:47.478-07:002015-10-29T06:52:47.478-07:00From The Collegian:
The colleges which are confir...From The Collegian:<br /><br />The colleges which are confirmed to be merging are the College of Social Justice and Human Services with the College of Health Sciences, and the College of Adult and Lifelong Learning with YouCollege.<br /><br />The College of Communication and the Arts may also be merging with the College of Languages, Literature and Social Sciences, but the decision has not yet been finalized.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-33686751535226841962015-10-27T05:48:55.563-07:002015-10-27T05:48:55.563-07:00So you put current Deans back to faculty and hire ...So you put current Deans back to faculty and hire new Deans to replace them, and you just end up with different deans wasting time, what is the point? (I am not even sure what time they are wasting that you are concerned about?). Plus chances are good you would have the same problems and again complaining about the Deans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-76880961778529164872015-10-26T16:53:45.849-07:002015-10-26T16:53:45.849-07:00The main dean wastage is time.
The main dean wastage is time. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-90181478842257787792015-10-26T16:52:29.588-07:002015-10-26T16:52:29.588-07:00Evaluations are mixed. Go back and look at the ev...Evaluations are mixed. Go back and look at the evals posted quite a while back on this blog. Guess it depends on who is a buddy of whom. The deans are unquestionably superfluous. Apparently the idea was for a time the more bureaucracy, the better. Times they are a changing. No more lifetime job program. Put' em back on faculty where at least they may generate some tuition income to justify their salaries. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-74953365509963738372015-10-26T16:02:10.665-07:002015-10-26T16:02:10.665-07:00Is there any evidence (or poor evaluations) that s...Is there any evidence (or poor evaluations) that show the current Deans of CLLSS, COCA and CNMS are doing "damage" to their colleges or faculty?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-63529528263235740082015-10-26T09:43:30.150-07:002015-10-26T09:43:30.150-07:00That's ok. They will do less damage when they...That's ok. They will do less damage when they are stepped down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-83178841826969374702015-10-26T07:18:22.405-07:002015-10-26T07:18:22.405-07:00Remember: deans have tenure. They have a job after...Remember: deans have tenure. They have a job after they step down from the dean's position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com