tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post5923189627336845345..comments2023-08-13T06:56:50.760-07:00Comments on Arts & Sciences College Forum: Open Letter from Ashley Pryor to David NemethDavid Davishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12126067283016390050noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-88004854226785414582009-12-12T03:45:17.981-08:002009-12-12T03:45:17.981-08:00This is in reply to Jim's "anonymous"...This is in reply to Jim's "anonymous" post above.<br /><br />1. <a href="http://www.onveon.com/college/graduation-statistics/university-toledo-43606.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.onveon.com/college/graduation-statistics/university-toledo-43606.htm</a> lists UT's 6-year graduation rate as 42%.<br /><br />2. The UT Guarantee program was announced last Fall. Application deadlines were during the Spring semester so this semester, Fall 09, is the first semester of attendance for students who had been awarded this scholarship, so no retention statistics are yet possible for them.<br /><br />3. Retention data for students with the same characteristics was presented by Kevin Kucera, Associate Vice President for Enrollment Services at the October 14, 2008 Faculty Senate meeting. The minutes are available at <a href="http://www.utoledo.edu/facsenate/docs/0809FSminutes.101408.doc" rel="nofollow">http://www.utoledo.edu/facsenate/docs/0809FSminutes.101408.doc</a> with VP Kucera's remarks beginning near the bottom of the fifth page. His PowerPoint presentation is available at <a href="http://www.utoledo.edu/facsenate/docs/Kucera.Faculty_Senate_10-14-08.ppt" rel="nofollow">http://www.utoledo.edu/facsenate/docs/Kucera.Faculty_Senate_10-14-08.ppt</a>. Retention rates for for DHS students are on 10th slide. The figures show that students with the eligibility requirements of the UT Guarantee program have retention rates comparable to the overall UT student population and higher than the overall rates for all students from the initial six target cities.horns n' finshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06341406073015094437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-5502169382132300252009-12-10T12:23:17.838-08:002009-12-10T12:23:17.838-08:00Ashley, you mention a number of times how students...Ashley, you mention a number of times how students will react to things they read in the blog. My question is, how many students read the blog at all? (Did either of the student representatives who came to the A & S Council meeting this week?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-48666997663567973662009-12-10T06:15:31.553-08:002009-12-10T06:15:31.553-08:00To Ashley and Others: Actually I did promptly resp...To Ashley and Others: Actually I did promptly respond to these very same questions and concerns when they were first posed to me by other readers of this forum as “Comments” by “FRD” and “Horns ‘n Fins”:<br /> <br />“I'm all for any program that demonstrates it promotes "first-tier" academic excellence in our Arts and Sciences College. Are the retention rates for UT Guarantee students good? I have not seen that data. Speaking of data: Here, for seven Ohio universities, are the six-year graduation rates for students entering in 2001:<br /><br />Miami University = 78.5%<br />University of Cincinnati = 51.7%<br />Bowling Green = 56.6%<br />University of Akron = 33.9%<br />Cleveland State University 31.3%<br />Ohio State University = 71.2%<br />Kent State = 50% (for 2003-2009)<br /><br />This OBOR data appears in a Kent State University newspaper report written by Kelly Petryszyn titled "University Concerned about Low Graduation Rates" and can be viewed here:<br /><br />http://www.kentnewsnet.com/home/<br />index.cfm?event=displayArticlePrinter<br />Friendly&uStory_id=6de7c927-778b<br />-49a3-9881-6fa32d45d619<br /><br />Perhaps someone out there can share with us comparable data for UT. signed, Jim”<br /><br />I will of course respond anew to the particulars expressed in your own post later this morning when I return from class. JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-38325263113871316162009-12-10T06:07:18.328-08:002009-12-10T06:07:18.328-08:00Anonymous Two here... Ashley, I apologize. My comm...Anonymous Two here... Ashley, I apologize. My comment was vaguely directed. Your post was wonderful.<br /><br />I was questioning why the blog comment approvers would post such a ignorant comment from Anonymous One that seems to make the very point (urban = minority) that the blog posters had been trying to fight.Anonymous Twonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-29820422860343880102009-12-10T05:32:29.107-08:002009-12-10T05:32:29.107-08:00Dear Anonymous Two,
I invite you to reread the po...Dear Anonymous Two,<br /><br />I invite you to reread the post again carefully, and see if in it I equate urban with minority in this post...hint: in the fourth paragraph you will find the answer!<br /><br />Anonymous Three: In a recent, email cordial exchange Dr. Nehmeth indicated that he would be responding here.<br /><br />Ashley<br /><br />Anonymous One: I am still mulling over how to write a thoughtful reply to your post.Ashleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-31309467830826389662009-12-10T04:26:29.708-08:002009-12-10T04:26:29.708-08:00Will Dr. Nemeth be responding to Dr. Pryor's l...Will Dr. Nemeth be responding to Dr. Pryor's letter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-28694395565644557492009-12-09T21:19:52.165-08:002009-12-09T21:19:52.165-08:00So by publishing this comment, aren't you prov...So by publishing this comment, aren't you proving None's point that urban is code for black to many people? Why would you publish such an offensive stereotype?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044792945653054348.post-62279174838499291742009-12-09T18:10:33.701-08:002009-12-09T18:10:33.701-08:00Speaking as a racially diverse student myself, I f...Speaking as a racially diverse student myself, I for one think the UT Guarantee is one of the most degrading programs this campus has to offer. Talk about racial profiling. 21 URBAN cities sounds very much like we are trolling for underprivileged students to give handouts to. Not only that, the expanded version was announced on Martin Luther King day, like it's some sort of handout for African American students. Why are we only targeting urban students? Are they poorer than the Sylvania kids? Do they deserve a chance at an education more than the kid who goes to Sylvania schools, whose parents make 41,000 a year? If this school wants to be fair and unbiased it needs to start expanding it's Guarantee to at least one city in every county in the state of Ohio and any cities/counties it serves in S.E. Michigan.<br /><br />And to top it off I see right through the free part of the guarantee. We all know that UT is getting some sort of profit from the state/fed. gov't. If any students should be offended it's the ones who just got herded in here to make UT and it's numbers look better. <br /><br />I cannot wait for the professors to come in with teasers. I am tired of watching students play farmville in front of me while the professor tries their best to lecture while all the other students stare fascinated with the internet based tomatoes some student just harvested. <br /><br />Give me a break, and stop patronizing students. Oh and I am an AA and am not from an urban city...more like a poor farming county that needs to see something like the UT Guarantee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com